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Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

Maven Embedder

Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not finding anything.

I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the classes.

Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

RE: Maven Embedder

Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-java

From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Maven Embedder

Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not finding anything.

I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the classes.

Jason van Zyl

Re: Maven Embedder

A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch of other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is just easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now. We could probably make another one now that might be useful but the first form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.

On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:

> Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-java
>
>
> From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Maven Embedder
>
> Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not finding anything.
>
> I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the classes.

Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
Founder, Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
---------------------------------------------------------

happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
and sit softly on your shoulder ...

-- Thoreau

Anders Hammar

Re: Maven Embedder

In reply to this post by Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

Today, you should really use Maven 3 which is designed to be
embeddable in tools. I have no experience myself of this, but it has
been discussed a few times on this mailing list although quite some
time has passed since the last time it was brought up. You could try
searching any of the archives.
One other way is to have a look at m2eclipse code, which takes full
advantage of integrating Maven into a tool.

/Anders

PS. The Maven Embedder I believe you're asking about was based on some
old Maven 2.0 code and found impossible to maintain.

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Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

RE: Maven Embedder

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I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you need.

Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are available for what tasks?

I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its dependencies:

<dependency>
<groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
<version>3.0.3</version>
</dependency>

But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.

Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all require other classes which other classes, etc...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>
> A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
> what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch of
> other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is just
> easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
> required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now. We
> could probably make another one now that might be useful but the first
> form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
>
> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
>
> > Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
> >
> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-java
> >
> >
> > From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Maven Embedder
> >
> > Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not finding
> anything.
> >
> > I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
> classes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder, Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>
> -- Thoreau
>
>

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Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

RE: Maven Embedder

I can volunteer some time to help make some of these components available. I presume most of these components can be found in the 3.0.3 maven-embedder artifact? Or is that artifact effectively deprecated and the components are found somewhere else?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd) [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:01 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: RE: Maven Embedder
>
> I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you need.
>
> Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are
> available for what tasks?
>
> I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its
> dependencies:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
> <artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
> <version>3.0.3</version>
> </dependency>
>
> But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.
>
> Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of
> the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local
> settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like
> "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all
> require other classes which other classes, etc...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
> >
> > A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
> > what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch of
> > other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is
> just
> > easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
> > required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now.
> We
> > could probably make another one now that might be useful but the
> first
> > form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
> > >
> > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-
> java
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: Maven Embedder
> > >
> > > Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not
> finding
> > anything.
> > >
> > > I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
> > classes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason van Zyl
> > Founder, Apache Maven
> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
> will
> > elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> come
> > and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> >
> > -- Thoreau
> >
> >
>
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Tamás Cservenák

Re: Maven Embedder

In reply to this post by Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

While you're use case is not quite clear to me ("combined view of
properties defined in pom and in profile..."), you could take a peek
at this:

https://github.com/sonatype/sisu-maven-bridge

It does offer effective pom for example...

Patches, as always, are welcome! :)

Thanks,
~t~

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you need.
>
> Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are available for what tasks?
>
> I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its dependencies:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
> <artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
> <version>3.0.3</version>
> </dependency>
>
> But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.
>
> Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all require other classes which other classes, etc...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>>
>> A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
>> what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch of
>> other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is just
>> easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
>> required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now. We
>> could probably make another one now that might be useful but the first
>> form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
>>
>> > Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
>> >
>> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-java
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Subject: Maven Embedder
>> >
>> > Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not finding
>> anything.
>> >
>> > I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
>> classes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder, Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
>> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>>
>> -- Thoreau
>>
>>
>
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Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

RE: Maven Embedder

It is basically the effective pom, but just for properties. So if in your settings.xml file you have this:

<profiles>
<profile>
<id>profileId</id>
<properties>
<property1>profileProperty1Value</property1>
<property3>profileProperty3Value</property3>
</properties>
<activation>
<activeByDefault>true</activeByDefault>
</activation>
</profile>
</profiles>

And in the pom you have this:

<properties>
<property1>pomProperty1Value</property1>
<property2>pomProperty2Value</property2>
</properties>

I should be able to get a consolidated list of properties. Ie:

<property1>profileProperty1Value</property1>
<property2>pomProperty2Value</property2>
<property3>profileProperty3Value</property3>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Tamás Cservenák
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:12 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>
> While you're use case is not quite clear to me ("combined view of
> properties defined in pom and in profile..."), you could take a peek
> at this:
>
> https://github.com/sonatype/sisu-maven-bridge
>
> It does offer effective pom for example...
>
> Patches, as always, are welcome! :)
>
>
> Thanks,
> ~t~
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you
> need.
> >
> > Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are
> available for what tasks?
> >
> > I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its
> dependencies:
> >
> > <dependency>
> > <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
> > <artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
> > <version>3.0.3</version>
> > </dependency>
> >
> > But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.
> >
> > Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of
> the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local
> settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like
> "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all
> require other classes which other classes, etc...
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
> >> To: Maven Users List
> >> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
> >>
> >> A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
> >> what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch
> of
> >> other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is
> just
> >> easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
> >> required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now.
> We
> >> could probably make another one now that might be useful but the
> first
> >> form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
> >>
> >> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
> >> >
> >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-
> java
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
> >> > To: [hidden email]
> >> > Subject: Maven Embedder
> >> >
> >> > Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not
> finding
> >> anything.
> >> >
> >> > I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
> >> classes.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder, Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
> will
> >> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
> come
> >> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
> >>
> >> -- Thoreau
> >>
> >>
> >
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Thiessen, Todd (Todd)

RE: Maven Embedder

In reply to this post by Tamás Cservenák

Thanks for a link to those examples.

I noticed that that pom has dependencies like:

<dependency>
<groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
<artifactId>maven-model</artifactId>
<version>3.0.1</version>
</dependency>

This artifact is also a dependency of the maven-embedder artifact. The statement I linked earlier regarding the maven embedder not being supported; what does this really mean? Does this mean that I shouldn't be using maven-embedder but rather directly using the artifacts it depends on like maven-model?

Jason van Zyl

Re: Maven Embedder

The MavenEmbedder class is gone, the maven-embedder module that still exists in the source is a misnomer really. Though if you look at the MavenCli class you'll see how we use some of the components to do some basic things like execute goals, read settings and the like.

On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:

> Thanks for a link to those examples.
>
> I noticed that that pom has dependencies like:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
> <artifactId>maven-model</artifactId>
> <version>3.0.1</version>
> </dependency>
>
> This artifact is also a dependency of the maven-embedder artifact. The statement I linked earlier regarding the maven embedder not being supported; what does this really mean? Does this mean that I shouldn't be using maven-embedder but rather directly using the artifacts it depends on like maven-model?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Tamás Cservenák
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:12 AM
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>>
>> While you're use case is not quite clear to me ("combined view of
>> properties defined in pom and in profile..."), you could take a peek
>> at this:
>>
>> https://github.com/sonatype/sisu-maven-bridge
>>
>> It does offer effective pom for example...
>>
>> Patches, as always, are welcome! :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~t~
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you
>> need.
>>>
>>> Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are
>> available for what tasks?
>>>
>>> I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its
>> dependencies:
>>>
>>> <dependency>
>>> <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
>>> <artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
>>> <version>3.0.3</version>
>>> </dependency>
>>>
>>> But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.
>>>
>>> Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of
>> the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local
>> settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like
>> "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all
>> require other classes which other classes, etc...
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
>>>> To: Maven Users List
>>>> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>>>>
>>>> A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
>>>> what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch
>> of
>>>> other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is
>> just
>>>> easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
>>>> required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now.
>> We
>>>> could probably make another one now that might be useful but the
>> first
>>>> form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-
>> java
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
>>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>> Subject: Maven Embedder
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not
>> finding
>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
>>>> classes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder, Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
>> will
>>>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
>> come
>>>> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>>>>
>>>> -- Thoreau
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Anders Hammar

Re: Maven Embedder

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My understanding is that maven-embedder stopped being supported for
Maven 2 at v2.0.4 (there is no 2.0.5, 2.1.x, or 2.2.x for example).
Then it was re-introduced with Maven 3, but I'm guessing that the API
changed completely.
But I could be completely off...

/Anders

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 15:31, Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for a link to those examples.
>
> I noticed that that pom has dependencies like:
>
> <dependency>
> <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
> <artifactId>maven-model</artifactId>
> <version>3.0.1</version>
> </dependency>
>
> This artifact is also a dependency of the maven-embedder artifact. The statement I linked earlier regarding the maven embedder not being supported; what does this really mean? Does this mean that I shouldn't be using maven-embedder but rather directly using the artifacts it depends on like maven-model?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Tamás Cservenák
>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:12 AM
>> To: Maven Users List
>> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>>
>> While you're use case is not quite clear to me ("combined view of
>> properties defined in pom and in profile..."), you could take a peek
>> at this:
>>
>> https://github.com/sonatype/sisu-maven-bridge
>>
>> It does offer effective pom for example...
>>
>> Patches, as always, are welcome! :)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~t~
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > I like the idea of using only the parts of the embedder that you
>> need.
>> >
>> > Is anything published anywhere which can list which components are
>> available for what tasks?
>> >
>> > I have been looking through the source for this artifact and its
>> dependencies:
>> >
>> > <dependency>
>> > <groupId>org.apache.maven</groupId>
>> > <artifactId>maven-embedder</artifactId>
>> > <version>3.0.3</version>
>> > </dependency>
>> >
>> > But haven't had too much luck trying to piece it all together.
>> >
>> > Ultimately what I want to do is to be able to have a combined view of
>> the properties defined in the pom and in a profile defined in my local
>> settings.xml file. I have found a number of classes like
>> "DefaultSettingsBuilder" and "DefaultProjectBuilder" but they all
>> require other classes which other classes, etc...
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:45 PM
>> >> To: Maven Users List
>> >> Subject: Re: Maven Embedder
>> >>
>> >> A single embedder really doesn't make any sense, or at least this is
>> >> what we have found working on Nexus, M2Eclipse, Hudson and a bunch
>> of
>> >> other tools. All of the use cases are slightly different and it is
>> just
>> >> easier to grab the individual components and piece them together as
>> >> required. We have several small embedders for all of the tools now.
>> We
>> >> could probably make another one now that might be useful but the
>> first
>> >> form of the embedder certainly wasn't which is why it was removed.
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Thiessen, Todd (Todd) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hmm. Or is the Maven Embedder no longer supported?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5141788/how-to-run-maven-from-
>> java
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: Thiessen, Todd (Todd)
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:27 AM
>> >> > To: [hidden email]
>> >> > Subject: Maven Embedder
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any kind of users guide for the maven embedder? Not
>> finding
>> >> anything.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can find the source, but having to guess as to how to use the
>> >> classes.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Jason
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Jason van Zyl
>> >> Founder, Apache Maven
>> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it
>> will
>> >> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will
>> come
>> >> and sit softly on your shoulder ...
>> >>
>> >> -- Thoreau
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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