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michael-o opened a new pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392


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[GitHub] [maven] rfscholte commented on pull request #392: [MNG-6113] Rename the 'Central Repository' to 'Maven Central Reposito…

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rfscholte commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-726874851


   @hboutemy has a strong opinion about this.


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michael-o commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-726877887


   I'd love to here it. I would expect that we use a canonical name which carries your name: Maven.


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michael-o commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-728166065


   @hboutemy What is your opinion.


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   @hboutemy What is your opinion?


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hboutemy commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-728382359


   Central Repository is used not only by Maven
   and "Maven Central" is a registered service name as stated in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5164


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michael-o commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729032644


   Central has been initiated by Maven devs and even non-Maven users refer to it Maven Central. Are you saying that Central Repository is a trademark? I had this discussions once with Mark Thomas, the ASF does not hold any registrations as far as I remember. I did not fully understand what you were trying to say.


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rfscholte commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729093878


   I think I understand the issue here. Central contains artifacts: they don't have to be created by Maven, nor do they have to be consumed by Maven projects only.
   For similar reason I chose to create plexus-languages/plexus-java: it might look weird if it was called maven-java and used by projects that have nothing to do with Maven , e.g. other build tools.


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cstamas commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729099958


   AFAIK, it *was* Maven Central before "re-branding", even the book mentions it as such, oh, and btw, it is in `maven.org` domain as well :smile:


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   AFAIR, it *was* Maven Central before "re-branding", even the book mentions it as such, oh, and btw, it is in `maven.org` domain as well :smile:


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michael-o commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729129169


   @michael-o The layout, structure and meta files are dictated by the Maven community,  maven-metadata.xml. If you claim this is a non-Maven repo I request to rename those files.


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mosabua commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729178849


   I has been operated under the name "Central Repository" by Sonatype for well over a decade. I would leave the name alone
   
   https://central.sonatype.org/
   
   cc @brianf


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   I has been operated under the name "Central Repository" by Sonatype for well over a decade. I would leave the name alone
   
   https://central.sonatype.org/
   
   I am opposed to merging this ..
   
   cc @brianf


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   It has been operated under the name "Central Repository" by Sonatype for well over a decade. I would leave the name alone
   
   https://central.sonatype.org/
   
   I am opposed to merging this ..
   
   cc @brianf


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URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729129169


   @rfscholte  The layout, structure and meta files are dictated by the Maven community,  maven-metadata.xml. If you claim this is a non-Maven repo I request to rename those files.


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cstamas commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729191927


   Well, https://search.maven.org/ names it differently 😄


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cstamas commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729214456


   > Central Repository is used not only by Maven
   > and "Maven Central" is a registered service name as stated in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5164
   
   @hboutemy seems it WAS registered, but is abandoned (since 2013?). This argument, actually both of them, are fluke IMHO.


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cstamas commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729228322


   Actually, all this "discussion" is IMHO fluke:
   * we discuss a change in Apache Maven sources, what it has to do with a (publicly available, thanks!) service name that a privately held company operate and publicize?
   * Super POM points to https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven while https://central.sonatype.org/ is being mentioned here. What first thing has to do with second? (true, content-wise is "same thing", but is merely technical detail that former URL is backed by service operated by same company backing latter URL as well).
   * the repository as known today (aka "central place for binary artifacts", etc, any def you can come up for that repo) was conceived and laid down by Apache Maven project.
   * the name "maven central" name **was** registered back in 2011 (when issue MNG-5164 was created), but seems abandoned since, for over 7 years.
   
   In other words, if Sonatype tomorrow renames "Central" to "Ukulele" for whatever reason, will that imply Super POM change in Apache Maven as well?


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   Actually, all this "discussion" is IMHO fluke:
   * we discuss a change in Apache Maven sources, what it has to do with a (publicly available, thanks!) service name that a privately held company operate and publicize?
   * Super POM points to https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven while https://central.sonatype.org/ is being mentioned here. What first thing has to do with second? (true, content-wise is "same thing", but is merely technical detail that former URL is backed by service operated by same company backing latter URL as well).
   * the repository as known today (aka "central place for binary artifacts", etc, any def you can come up for that repo) was conceived and laid down by Apache Maven project.
   * the name "maven central" name **was** registered back in 2011 (when issue MNG-5164 was created), but seems abandoned since, for over 7 years.
   
   In other words, if afore mentioned company tomorrow renames "Central" to "Ukulele" for whatever reason, will that imply Super POM change in Apache Maven as well?


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mosabua commented on pull request #392:
URL: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/392#issuecomment-729230804


   Hahah .. about search.maven.org .. oh well.
   
   The reason central.sonatype.org is important is that it is the reference documentation for how to publish ..  maybe Sonatype and the Maven project should agree on one name and use it consistently..


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